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There is no means from the stated rules to determine, for a real part, what it means in the absence of anything but a basic profile, what such a measurement might accomplish. To say it's often portrayed that was is an understatement - that's the only way the standard portrays it. That interpretation of total runout was never supported in previous versions in fact, the application examples seem to go far out of their way to demonstrate only parallel and perpendicular applications. I agree with pylfrm that this is a generalization of total runout. Dynamic profile allows the tolerance zones to "progress" (offset). Composite profile allows the tolerance zones in the lower segment to translate relative to the DRF. This has been a sticking point - what to do when the angle of a cone is defined using a directly toleranced angle?ĭynamic profile cannot be covered by composite profile tolerancing - it's something different. So this doesn't rule out cones and curved surfaces of revolution, but it does require that they be defined with basic dimensions and not with directly toleranced dimensions. But the requirement is really that the indicator needs to point normal to the basic surface. Point the indicator perpendicular to the datum axis for cylinders, and parallel to the axis for planes.
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It's often portrayed that way, as this provides a useful description for cylindrical and planar surfaces. Total runout doesn't limit variation parallel or perpendicular to an axis. I also noticed that some of the figures are larger, taking up an entire page. Some of the additional pages represent new content, but a lot of it is from additional model-based versions of the figures. It's an indirect consequence of conforming to the total runout requirement. When applied to a cylindrical feature, total runout limits the worst-case cylindricity error. It's a description, intended to aid understanding. Regarding the addition of the term "cylindricity", I don't think that this changes anything about the definition itself. Personally, I don't have a problem with it. Regarding total runout on a cone, I'm wondering what your objection is and why you feel it should be disallowed.
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When a part is CMM inspected, the software rarely/never tries different candidate primary datum planes. How often do you see a part rocked to an optimal orientation on a surface plate during inspection? I haven't seen that very much. I suppose that this depends on how often candidate datums on a rocking primary datum feature actually come into play.
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The new stabilization default for RMB datum features will have some impact, but I'm not sure how much.
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The logical conclusion would be that position tolerancing and the definition of true position is only allowed with basic dimensions, and any use of directly toleranced dimensions would violate the definition of position and would have no support in the standard as to how to interpret it. Instead it specifically states in 7.2 "Basic dimensions establish the true position from specified datums and between interrelated features" and only shows examples with basic dimensions. I don't believe the standard says anywhere "directly toleranced dimensions are not allowed/illegal in combination with position tolerance". Take for example the rules for position tolerancing. but no standard is perfect I guess - or at least I'll keep telling myself that).
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Instead it is typically more important to as clearly and specifically as possible define rules and applications for each topic (which, if we're being honest it comes up short in several areas. I could be wrong, but I don't think the standard spends much time on what is not allowed or specifically stating something as "illegal". I meant the argument between whether total runout on cones is legal or not would become moot/irrelevant. The key isn't making any particular language feature legal** or not it is providing unambiguous declarations of applicability and clear rules for the expected results of application.